Curse

thor hammerbane · Mar 28, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

I don't want this thread to sound like im whining, but ive had enough of ele's just spamming blinding flash. They can consistently keep on atleast 2 targets, this is why i feel it is overpowered. Gale was a great skills for warriors to use, every w/e used it; It got a nerf. Crippling shot was a great skill for rangers to use in GvG and the like, they could spam it on an entire team;it got nerfed. Every single air ele has blinding flash, i think it deserves a nerf. Something as simple as a 2 second casting time, or a longer recharge time. I am fed up with Air Ele's just spamming this. Other usefull skills got nerfed as well, Distortion, Offering of Blood. All these skills dealt with spamming.

Blinding flash is another one that i think should be added to these "spammable nerfs". Please A-net, nerf it now!

The Real Roy Keane · Mar 28, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

It's a fifteen energy cost skill, I think it's pretty balanced. Besides, take this spell away, and Eles may drop out of the GvG scene altogether.

thor hammerbane · Mar 28, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I would understand if ele's didn't have huge energy, but they do. Their primary attribute is energy storage. They have huge energy. And when they use this skill, they use ele+air attunement or ether prodigy;they have energy management. A simple nerf, such as longer recharge, would fix this skill right up. no other profession can shut down a war or ranger as fast as ele currently. Mend ailment is now 5 second recharge, the monk can't even keep up with it.

Big BS imo.

Talon Silverwing · Mar 28, 2006, 02:16 AM // 02:16

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Originally Posted by thor hammerbane.

Mend ailment is now 5 second recharge, the monk can't even keep up with it.

Big BS imo.

Mend Condition also does the trick

As does

Martyr
RC
Draw Conditions

maybe more? >.>

Arkantos · Mar 28, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

OoB cant be spammed...

Lady Lorwinia · Mar 28, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Yeah. OOB can't be spammed unless you're tired of living^^

If blinding is a huge problem for you in gvg, then your monks are just not doing their job.

Mend ailment it's that simple.

Get on vent or ts and communicate with those monks.

Or ctrl+space click on blind and your monks will know.

The only things that make ele's useful right now is healparty^^ jk :P

wards make it useful. Same with blinding flash. If they nerfed blinding flash like they nerfed crip shot, then 90% of ele's would drop from gvg.

Like they did to us rangers

thor hammerbane · Mar 28, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I just dont think its fair...every other class gets their fav skill nerfed, and the ele's get to keep theirs? And my monks are just fine, but they cant spare time to remove a condition every 4 seconds while they are trying to keep us alive. And Lady Lorwinia, I told you my point on Mend Ailment; its 5 seconds recharge, while flash is 4.

BTW,OoB was the choice of E-Management of almost all monks, so thats why it got nerfed, so it wasn't being spammed persay, but close to it.

@ Talon
Martyr=Elite, 10 second Recharge
Draw Conditions=Nothing to say here, but not every monk skillbar has it
RC=Elite, prot boons need energy management.

XX Deathwish Warrior XX · Mar 28, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

lol...... i think that blinding flash doesnt need a nerf cuz its not actually that great like every1 else said........... y nerf a perfectly ok skill? and its not like builds are completely built on blinding flash and........ well..... y nerf eles? people already dont use them very often in pvp other than simple warders...

cronk · Mar 28, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

i could see where you are coming from, but i dont really agree.
if an ele will waste 15 energy every 5 seconds, while trying to get off others skills, then that is a lot of energy. even with high energy storage. i dont believe this skill is imbalanced, because eles have very low defense, and if a big bad warrior got in there, he could take on out quite fast. i think its just a hassle more then any kind of overpowering skill.

Wretchman Drake · Mar 28, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50

If you run dual ele attunements, Blinding FLash is your best friend

Lady Lorwinia · Mar 28, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Look.

Eles already suck as it is. Take away blinding flash, and almost all eles will drop from gvg.

Wards are pretty good. But you can't waste a whole character just one wards.

Blinding flash is just there. A-net would be stupid to nerf that.

Warcheif_Jonval · Mar 28, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Im sorry Mr. Thor, it seems something in your skull is not connecting.

Our favorite skill was nurfed a while ago with the AI update. now all we have is Echonuke out side of pvp and since aoe is useless in pvp, all we have is flash.

Anything else we could possibly do, someone else could do better.

Before you cry for a nerf, think, "am i just angry or does this really really really really REALY need nerfing?"

(I do not apoligise for my snide tone, or rude comments)

Haggard · Mar 28, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by thor hammerbane

I just dont think its fair...every other class gets their fav skill nerfed, and the ele's get to keep theirs?

Ele's have been nerfed to sub-crap because of the power nuking held (as it should be) earlier in GW, nerfing blinding flash would be kicking them when theyre down.

tafy69 · Mar 28, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Blinding Flash is nothing to worry about, it causes no pressure to your team and it can be removed so easily.

Feintheartedness from the necro line is is much nastier skill and I dont hear people moaning about that.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Mar 28, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

First, yes Elementalists do need a boost.

BUT Blinding Flash is nonetheless still too good. With no effort at all, you can blind two warriors constantly. Sure there are condition removals, but as you all know....just because there are counters doesnt mean it's not too good. Look at what happend to Crippling Shot. It was a condition too and could be removed but it was TOO spammable. And hell that was an Elite skill.

Don't worry though, I dont think it needs much of a nerf or that it's a huge problem. The recharge needs to be upped a bit that's all. And it shouldnt be touched until the Elementalist profession is "fixed"

Also, and I hate to invoke other people's names to prove a point and it doesnt really prove anything but....even Charles Ensign thinks it needs the recharge upped a bit. It was in a thread about skill balancing after the GWWC a while back.

JR · Mar 28, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by tafy69

Feintheartedness from the necro line is is much nastier skill and I dont hear people moaning about that.

Or Shadow of Fear, which is just crazy good in hex builds as warrior hate.

Blinding Flash is a great skill, that's about it. It by no means needs a "nerf". Yes, it could maybe be tweaked, a slightly longer recycle wouldn't be fatal to it... but at the same time every Blinding Flash an ele casts, is one less Heal Party.

Poison Ivy · Mar 28, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41

It's expensive, thats it's excuse for not being nurfed.

Rajamic · Mar 28, 2006, 10:36 AM // 10:36

It also is barely better than the standard way of removing it, which is exactly what ANet seems to be aiming for.

LightningHell · Mar 28, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Which is why ANet is smart.

Also, Gale was not used according to what it was supposed to be used for; it was sort of destroying the metagame, IMO. (Like Ravager was in M:tG. And Skullclamp.) Crippling Shot was overpowered to every person who had a little, just a little, inkling of how Rangers work in a GvG. Blinding Flash is not overpowered at all. Not at all.

It's definitely not too spammable, and it's balanced just right. A slightly longer recharge would be okay.

Rykiel · Mar 28, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37

I don't think people think anymore before they whine. How apt that this whine is coming from a W/Mo.

You should also be careful saying 'every single air ele'. Such generalisations do not lend any sort of credibility to your argument.

I play an air elementalist myself, and I use Distortion instead of Blinding Flash. Why? Because Blinding Flash costs 15 energy which is already too much for me. It's also a condition, and is easily removed for a mere 5 energy by Mend Condition, Mend Ailment, or Martyr.

As for the whole nerfing thing, elementalists already got all their AOE skills nerfed. That was their strength. Now you want to take away one of their defensive skills? You fool. If anything, Elementalists need to be buffed, and their AOE skills reworked.

By the way, I've had enough of Warriors using Irresistable Blow, Endure Pain, and IWAY. Lets nerf all of them. IWAY didn't even get a proper nerfing like it should have.